Annotation of embedaddon/freevrrpd/ABOUTCISCOPATENT, revision 1.1
1.1 ! misho 1: If you think that freevrrpd is not legal then read this mail/reply:
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! 8: Reply-To: <rbarr@cisco.com>
! 9: From: "Robert Barr " <rbarr@cisco.com>
! 10: To: "'Michael Hertrick'" <m.hertrick@neovera.com>
! 11: Subject: RE: RFC 2338 (VRRP) and US patent #5,473,599
! 12: Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 11:58:39 -0800
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! 21: Mr Hertrick:
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! 23: The following is Cisco's policy with respect to VRRP:
! 24:
! 25:
! 26: Cisco will not assert any patents owned or controlled by Cisco against any
! 27: party for making, using, selling, importing or offering for sale a product
! 28: that implements IETF RFC 2338, provided, however that:
! 29:
! 30: Cisco retains the right to assert its patents (including the right to claim
! 31: past royalties) against any party that asserts a patent it owns or controls
! 32: (either directly or indirectly) against Cisco or any of Cisco's affiliates
! 33: or successors in title; and Cisco retains the right to assert its patents
! 34: against any product or portion
! 35: thereof that is not necessary for compliance with RFC 2338.
! 36:
! 37: If you have any questions, or if you would prefer a royalty-bearing license,
! 38: please contact me.
! 39:
! 40: Robert Barr
! 41: VP, Intellectual Property
! 42: Worldwide Patent Counsel
! 43: Cisco Systems
! 44: 408-525-9706
! 45:
! 46: > -----Original Message-----
! 47: > From: Michael Hertrick [mailto:m.hertrick@neovera.com]
! 48: > Sent: Friday, November 21, 2003 7:01 PM
! 49: > To: rbarr@cisco.com
! 50: > Subject: RFC 2338 (VRRP) and US patent #5,473,599
! 51: >
! 52: >
! 53: > Mr. Barr,
! 54: >
! 55: > What does Cisco ask in return for a license to write and use a VRRP
! 56: > implementation in accordance with RFC 2338?
! 57: >
! 58: > Thank you,
! 59: >
! 60: > Michael Hertrick
! 61: > 571-437-5911
! 62: > Neovera, Inc.
! 63: >
! 64: >
! 65:
! 66: I've send a new request from me to robert barr, freevrrpd is completly legal and agree with standards. So making, using, selling, importing or offering for sale is authorized.
! 67:
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! 86: Reply-To: <rbarr@cisco.com>
! 87: From: "Robert Barr " <rbarr@cisco.com>
! 88: To: "'Sebastien Petit'" <spe@bsdfr.org>
! 89: Cc: "Robert Barr" <rbarr@cisco.com>
! 90: Subject: RE: Patent issue for VRRPv2 and VRRPv3
! 91: Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2004 11:56:50 -0800
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! 103:
! 104: This is our policy for RFC2338. If VRRP v.2 and/or v.3 become
! 105: standards-track RFC's (have they?) then this policy applies to those as
! 106: well:
! 107:
! 108:
! 109:
! 110: Cisco will not assert any patents owned or controlled by Cisco against any
! 111: party for making, using, selling, importing or offering for sale a product
! 112: that implements IETF RFC 2338, provided, however that:
! 113: Cisco retains the right to assert its patents (including the right to claim
! 114: past royalties) against any party that asserts a patent it owns or controls
! 115: (either directly or indirectly) against Cisco or any of Cisco's affiliates
! 116: or successors in title; and Cisco retains the right to assert its patents
! 117: against any product or portion thereof that is not necessary for compliance with RFC 2338.
! 118: If you have any questions, or if you would prefer a royalty-bearing license
! 119: please contact me.
! 120: Robert Barr
! 121: VP, Intellectual Property
! 122: Worldwide Patent Counsel
! 123: Cisco Systems
! 124: 408-525-9706
! 125: -----Original Message-----
! 126: From: Sebastien Petit [mailto:spe@bsdfr.org]=20
! 127: Sent: Friday, March 05, 2004 11:24 AM
! 128: To: rbarr@cisco.com
! 129: Subject: Patent issue for VRRPv2 and VRRPv3
! 130:
! 131:
! 132: Dear Robert Barr,
! 133:
! 134: In order to be conform to the Cisco standards concerning VRRPv2 and VRRPv3
! 135: (Patent #5 473 599), I would like to obtain a legal authorization from
! 136: Cisco to implement and use these protocols in OpenSource system environment, so
! 137: be conform and compatible between all the existant equipments. OpenSource
! 138: systems are not a risk for your company and will profit to network standards. If
! 139: you cannot give me an authorization, other solutions will be done and will be
! 140: incompatible with your VRRP standard (like CARP a Common Adress
! 141: Redundancy Protocol coming soon under OpenBSD 3.5)
! 142: In order to continue my work in the OpenSource domain, can you tell me
! 143: if you can give me an authorization for implementing and using VRRPv2,
! 144: VRRPv3 ietf standard in a free opensource software (no selling) ?
! 145: Is there any parts to request for that same thing ?
! 146:
! 147: Regards,
! 148: Sebastien Petit
! 149: --
! 150: spe@bsdfr.org
! 151: spe@selectbourse.net
! 152:
! 153: In Europe, all software and algorithms patents are invalid.
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