Annotation of embedaddon/freevrrpd/ABOUTCISCOPATENT, revision 1.1

1.1     ! misho       1: If you think that freevrrpd is not legal then read this mail/reply:
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        !             8: Reply-To: <rbarr@cisco.com>
        !             9: From: "Robert Barr " <rbarr@cisco.com>
        !            10: To: "'Michael Hertrick'" <m.hertrick@neovera.com>
        !            11: Subject: RE: RFC 2338 (VRRP) and US patent #5,473,599
        !            12: Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 11:58:39 -0800
        !            13: Message-ID: <009401c3b2c5$5ae64e10$6601a8c0@amer.cisco.com>
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        !            21: Mr Hertrick:
        !            22: 
        !            23: The following is Cisco's policy with respect to VRRP:
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        !            25: 
        !            26: Cisco will not assert any patents owned or controlled by Cisco  against any
        !            27: party  for making, using, selling, importing or offering for sale a product
        !            28: that implements IETF RFC 2338, provided, however that:
        !            29: 
        !            30: Cisco retains the right to assert its patents  (including the right to claim
        !            31: past royalties) against any party that asserts a patent it owns or controls
        !            32: (either directly or indirectly) against Cisco or any of Cisco's affiliates
        !            33: or successors in title; and Cisco retains the right to assert its patents
        !            34: against any product or portion
        !            35: thereof that is not necessary for compliance with RFC 2338.
        !            36: 
        !            37: If you have any questions, or if you would prefer a royalty-bearing license,
        !            38: please contact me.
        !            39: 
        !            40: Robert Barr
        !            41: VP, Intellectual Property
        !            42: Worldwide Patent Counsel
        !            43: Cisco Systems
        !            44: 408-525-9706
        !            45: 
        !            46: > -----Original Message-----
        !            47: > From: Michael Hertrick [mailto:m.hertrick@neovera.com        !            48: > Sent: Friday, November 21, 2003 7:01 PM
        !            49: > To: rbarr@cisco.com
        !            50: > Subject: RFC 2338 (VRRP) and US patent #5,473,599
        !            51: > 
        !            52: > 
        !            53: > Mr. Barr,
        !            54: > 
        !            55: > What does Cisco ask in return for a license to write and use a VRRP 
        !            56: > implementation in accordance with RFC 2338?
        !            57: > 
        !            58: > Thank you,
        !            59: > 
        !            60: > Michael Hertrick
        !            61: > 571-437-5911
        !            62: > Neovera, Inc.
        !            63: > 
        !            64: > 
        !            65: 
        !            66: I've send a new request from me to robert barr, freevrrpd is completly legal and agree with standards. So making, using, selling, importing or offering for sale is authorized.
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        !            86: Reply-To: <rbarr@cisco.com>
        !            87: From: "Robert Barr " <rbarr@cisco.com>
        !            88: To: "'Sebastien Petit'" <spe@bsdfr.org>
        !            89: Cc: "Robert Barr" <rbarr@cisco.com>
        !            90: Subject: RE: Patent issue for VRRPv2 and VRRPv3
        !            91: Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2004 11:56:50 -0800
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        !           103: 
        !           104: This is our policy for RFC2338. If VRRP v.2 and/or v.3 become
        !           105: standards-track RFC's (have they?) then this policy applies to those as
        !           106: well:
        !           107: 
        !           108: 
        !           109: 
        !           110: Cisco will not assert any patents owned or controlled by Cisco against any
        !           111: party for making, using, selling, importing or offering for sale a product
        !           112: that implements IETF RFC 2338, provided, however that:
        !           113: Cisco retains the right to assert its patents (including the right to claim
        !           114: past royalties) against any party that asserts a patent it owns or controls
        !           115: (either directly or indirectly) against Cisco or any of Cisco's affiliates
        !           116: or successors in title; and Cisco retains the right to assert its patents
        !           117: against any product or portion thereof that is not necessary for compliance with RFC 2338.
        !           118: If you have any questions, or if you would prefer a royalty-bearing license
        !           119: please contact me.
        !           120: Robert Barr
        !           121: VP, Intellectual Property
        !           122: Worldwide Patent Counsel
        !           123: Cisco Systems
        !           124: 408-525-9706
        !           125: -----Original Message-----
        !           126: From: Sebastien Petit [mailto:spe@bsdfr.org]=20
        !           127: Sent: Friday, March 05, 2004 11:24 AM
        !           128: To: rbarr@cisco.com
        !           129: Subject: Patent issue for VRRPv2 and VRRPv3
        !           130: 
        !           131: 
        !           132: Dear Robert Barr,
        !           133: 
        !           134: In order to be conform to the Cisco standards concerning VRRPv2 and VRRPv3
        !           135: (Patent #5 473 599),  I would like to obtain a legal authorization from
        !           136: Cisco to implement and use these protocols in OpenSource system environment, so
        !           137: be conform and compatible between all the existant equipments. OpenSource
        !           138: systems are not a risk for your company and will profit to network standards. If
        !           139: you cannot give me an  authorization, other solutions will be done and will be
        !           140: incompatible with your VRRP standard (like CARP a Common Adress
        !           141: Redundancy Protocol coming soon under OpenBSD 3.5)
        !           142: In order to continue my work in the OpenSource domain, can you tell me
        !           143: if you can give me an authorization for implementing and using VRRPv2,
        !           144: VRRPv3 ietf standard in a free opensource software (no selling) ?
        !           145: Is there any parts to request for that same thing ?
        !           146: 
        !           147: Regards,
        !           148: Sebastien Petit
        !           149: --
        !           150: spe@bsdfr.org
        !           151: spe@selectbourse.net
        !           152: 
        !           153: In Europe, all software and algorithms patents are invalid.

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