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1.1       misho       1: If you think that freevrrpd is not legal then read this mail/reply:
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                      8: Reply-To: <rbarr@cisco.com>
                      9: From: "Robert Barr " <rbarr@cisco.com>
                     10: To: "'Michael Hertrick'" <m.hertrick@neovera.com>
                     11: Subject: RE: RFC 2338 (VRRP) and US patent #5,473,599
                     12: Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 11:58:39 -0800
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                     21: Mr Hertrick:
                     22: 
                     23: The following is Cisco's policy with respect to VRRP:
                     24: 
                     25: 
                     26: Cisco will not assert any patents owned or controlled by Cisco  against any
                     27: party  for making, using, selling, importing or offering for sale a product
                     28: that implements IETF RFC 2338, provided, however that:
                     29: 
                     30: Cisco retains the right to assert its patents  (including the right to claim
                     31: past royalties) against any party that asserts a patent it owns or controls
                     32: (either directly or indirectly) against Cisco or any of Cisco's affiliates
                     33: or successors in title; and Cisco retains the right to assert its patents
                     34: against any product or portion
                     35: thereof that is not necessary for compliance with RFC 2338.
                     36: 
                     37: If you have any questions, or if you would prefer a royalty-bearing license,
                     38: please contact me.
                     39: 
                     40: Robert Barr
                     41: VP, Intellectual Property
                     42: Worldwide Patent Counsel
                     43: Cisco Systems
                     44: 408-525-9706
                     45: 
                     46: > -----Original Message-----
                     47: > From: Michael Hertrick [mailto:m.hertrick@neovera.com] 
                     48: > Sent: Friday, November 21, 2003 7:01 PM
                     49: > To: rbarr@cisco.com
                     50: > Subject: RFC 2338 (VRRP) and US patent #5,473,599
                     51: > 
                     52: > 
                     53: > Mr. Barr,
                     54: > 
                     55: > What does Cisco ask in return for a license to write and use a VRRP 
                     56: > implementation in accordance with RFC 2338?
                     57: > 
                     58: > Thank you,
                     59: > 
                     60: > Michael Hertrick
                     61: > 571-437-5911
                     62: > Neovera, Inc.
                     63: > 
                     64: > 
                     65: 
                     66: I've send a new request from me to robert barr, freevrrpd is completly legal and agree with standards. So making, using, selling, importing or offering for sale is authorized.
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                     86: Reply-To: <rbarr@cisco.com>
                     87: From: "Robert Barr " <rbarr@cisco.com>
                     88: To: "'Sebastien Petit'" <spe@bsdfr.org>
                     89: Cc: "Robert Barr" <rbarr@cisco.com>
                     90: Subject: RE: Patent issue for VRRPv2 and VRRPv3
                     91: Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2004 11:56:50 -0800
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                    103: 
                    104: This is our policy for RFC2338. If VRRP v.2 and/or v.3 become
                    105: standards-track RFC's (have they?) then this policy applies to those as
                    106: well:
                    107: 
                    108: 
                    109: 
                    110: Cisco will not assert any patents owned or controlled by Cisco against any
                    111: party for making, using, selling, importing or offering for sale a product
                    112: that implements IETF RFC 2338, provided, however that:
                    113: Cisco retains the right to assert its patents (including the right to claim
                    114: past royalties) against any party that asserts a patent it owns or controls
                    115: (either directly or indirectly) against Cisco or any of Cisco's affiliates
                    116: or successors in title; and Cisco retains the right to assert its patents
                    117: against any product or portion thereof that is not necessary for compliance with RFC 2338.
                    118: If you have any questions, or if you would prefer a royalty-bearing license
                    119: please contact me.
                    120: Robert Barr
                    121: VP, Intellectual Property
                    122: Worldwide Patent Counsel
                    123: Cisco Systems
                    124: 408-525-9706
                    125: -----Original Message-----
                    126: From: Sebastien Petit [mailto:spe@bsdfr.org]=20
                    127: Sent: Friday, March 05, 2004 11:24 AM
                    128: To: rbarr@cisco.com
                    129: Subject: Patent issue for VRRPv2 and VRRPv3
                    130: 
                    131: 
                    132: Dear Robert Barr,
                    133: 
                    134: In order to be conform to the Cisco standards concerning VRRPv2 and VRRPv3
                    135: (Patent #5 473 599),  I would like to obtain a legal authorization from
                    136: Cisco to implement and use these protocols in OpenSource system environment, so
                    137: be conform and compatible between all the existant equipments. OpenSource
                    138: systems are not a risk for your company and will profit to network standards. If
                    139: you cannot give me an  authorization, other solutions will be done and will be
                    140: incompatible with your VRRP standard (like CARP a Common Adress
                    141: Redundancy Protocol coming soon under OpenBSD 3.5)
                    142: In order to continue my work in the OpenSource domain, can you tell me
                    143: if you can give me an authorization for implementing and using VRRPv2,
                    144: VRRPv3 ietf standard in a free opensource software (no selling) ?
                    145: Is there any parts to request for that same thing ?
                    146: 
                    147: Regards,
                    148: Sebastien Petit
                    149: --
                    150: spe@bsdfr.org
                    151: spe@selectbourse.net
                    152: 
                    153: In Europe, all software and algorithms patents are invalid.